Grumpy Owly
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.02.21 22:52:00 -
[1] - Quote
Mittani Mning quotes:
The Mittani wrote:"I know that it's ~completely mindblowing~ for a hiseccer, but most nullsec alliances don't mine. Except IRC.
Mining is awful. Don't do it."
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"Mining basically died in nullsec - barring a few displaced carebears who kept at it despite a lack of profit - when the drone regions opened and began vomiting endless amounts of high-end minerals into the economy. I think the easiest fix for that is to remove 'gunmining' by giving the drones bounties like regular rats and removing their alloys. I enjoy killing miners, so it'd be nice to see mining ops in null besides IRC."
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"I mined my ass off in 2005/2006 in Syndicate when the Swarm lived and died based on the prices of Zydrine, and Crokite was valuable enough that ops would be formed and defenses positioned to ensure that mining ops occured. The dynamic was interesting and dangerous, yet profitable enough that we'd do it despite the risk of being killed.
You're also wrong because you don't understand the concept of guards. Stealth bombers? Hurricane, please. Crying about AFK cloakers?
Nullsec requires profit to make mining worthwhile, and it should be dangerous enough to inspire people to run mining ops with guards. If you mine solo and whine about risk of being popped, that's because you're Doing It Wrong. "
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"Gunmining in the drone regions is entirely the reason why mining has been devalued as a profession. I firmly support and advocate for a shift to bounties on Drone Region rats instead of alloys; this will stop the unceasing flow of highend minerals into the market, raise their prices, and make mining A/B/C worthwhile once more. Belts will have more miners - or have miners at all - and then we can murder them and read their whine threads on eve-o about how vile and cruel we are."
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"This is pretty weird, because I haven't mined since 2006, but I actually know about 'the spod'. 0.0 mining in general needs a huge reworking, the first step of which is removing alloy drops from drone rats. After that, nitty-gritty tweaks to grav site compositions are somewhat beyond my capacity, though the usual ideas - superveld, etc - have been tossed around. Making mining in null worthwhile once more is a high priority for the CSM, however, as most of us miss blowing up mining barges, and in order to find exhumers to kill you have to make the sites profitable enough to make it worth mining in the first place."
So there seems to be a consistant message of him wanting to improve his lot in null sec by moving the distribution of ABC sources, likley at the expence of those who have an staked interest in NPC null sec. And in doing so likley to generate a larger isk faucet from bounties to make inflation worse by simply converting the present drone goo into isk.
And whilst I recognise the helpfull shift for mining, it would be better to redistribute this evenly in regards to drone goo and other loot refining in order to redistribute mineral importance back to mining accross the whole of EvE as a stratergy. Not just limiting it to solely drone goo, which is likley a rivals income. I would prefer to see drone goo go or be significantly reduced however for the interests of mining. But I would consider carefully wether isk sinks need to be better considered to compensate for the isk faucet shift with the introduction of drone bounties.
No mention of any significant changes to the mining profession itself directly as a resutl, just resources.
Apart form that there is little interest in mining developments other than ensuring a need to enthuse more opportunites to shoot soft targets.
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